摘要
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next 是一个实验性开源权重多模态模型,预演 Qwen4 计划采用的架构:125B 语言模型(每 token 激活 6B),外加 51B n-gram 嵌入表与 4B 多 token 预测头(BF16 合计约 180B)。注意力为混合式——Gated DeltaNet 线性注意力为主、每 4 层插一层 Qwen Sparse Attention;原生 262,144 token 上下文,YaRN 可扩到 1M。模型卡 benchmark 上领先 Qwen3.8-27B 与 DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731(DeepSWE 1.1 58.7、SWE-bench Pro 62.5、LiveCodeBench v6 91.9、GPQA Diamond 91.7)。以 qwen-community-1.0 自定义许可发布,提供 Transformers / vLLM / SGLang 三种后训练权重形态;官方定位中 Qwen3.8-Flash 是它的生产对应版本。
为什么重要
对服务团队来说,这是一周内第二个把筹码押在「混合线性注意力降长上下文成本」上的前沿实验室开源权重——GLM-5.3-Flash 在 8/25 落地了同一思路。把它当架构信号而不是生产可用版本:官方明确标注实验性质、许可证是自定义而非 MIT/Apache,且默认 1M 上下文的生产版 Qwen3.8-Flash 才是受支持的对位产品。
技术细节
| 架构 | 125B 语言模型(激活 6B)+ 51B n-gram 嵌入(bigram/trigram 查表)+ 4B 多 token 预测;BF16 合计约 180B;48 层循环模式:3 x(Gated DeltaNet -> MoE)+ 1 x(Qwen Sparse Attention -> MoE) |
|---|---|
| 注意力 | 混合式:Gated DeltaNet 线性注意力(48 V / 16 QK 头,dim 128)+ 每 4 层一次 Qwen Sparse Attention(24 Q / 2 KV 头,dim 256;索引预算 512 blocks / 2048 tokens) |
| MoE | 512 专家,每 token 激活 10 路由 + 1 共享;Gated Residual 4 分支,瓶颈秩 320 |
| 上下文 | 原生 262,144;YaRN 可扩至 1M |
| 模态 | 图-文输入的多模态;默认思考模式(effort xhigh/medium/low) |
| 训练 | Muon 与 AdamW 按权重类别分工;不做 batch-size warmup;更大学习率 |
| Benchmark | DeepSWE 1.1 58.7、SWE-bench Pro 62.5、SWE-bench Multilingual 81.0、NL2Repo-Bench 48.1、Agents' Last Exam 51.2、GPQA Diamond 91.7、LiveCodeBench v6 91.9;视觉:AndroidWorld 84.5、LVBench 76.6——对比 Qwen3.8-27B、Qwen3.7-Plus、DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731、Claude-Opus-4.6 |
| 许可证 | 自定义 qwen-community-1.0(license: other)——商用前先核对条款 |
| 采用 | 截至 2026-08-30T00:00Z:主仓 52,341 下载(30d)+ 4,287 likes;FP8 变体 44,281 下载;生产对位版本 Qwen3.8-Flash 自发布周起在 QwenCloud / Model Studio / OpenRouter 提供($0.15 / $0.47 每百万 token) |
后续更新
2026-08-30 Production counterpart verified (resolves the prior watch item): Qwen3.8-Flash is the API-only production version of Flash-Next — live on QwenCloud since launch week with a 1M-token default context and official built-in tools; served via Alibaba Cloud Model Studio (USD 0.15/M input <=1M tokens, 0.47/M output, context-caching discount) and OpenRouter (0.15/0.47). No separately licensed open weights beyond Flash-Next itself (custom qwen-community-1.0). Adoption re-check 2026-08-30: main repo 52,341 downloads + 4,287 likes (was 4,213 on 8/29; the 30d download pool is unchanged at 52,341 — treat as a static window, not zero growth). Recommendation stays WATCH (experimental preview; production path is the API).
2026-08-31 Adoption check @2026-08-31T00:00Z: 121,976 downloads (+133% vs the 52,341 @8/30 sample, ~7 days after listing) + 4,384 likes (+97) — the display counter finally moved after appearing frozen between the 8/29 and 8/30 samples. Sustained-velocity data point for trend #1 criterion (c). Recommendation stays WATCH.
2026-09-02 adoption check @2026-09-02T00:0xZ: 207,941 downloads (+70% vs 121,976 @8/31, ~9 days after listing) + 4,635 likes; FP8 variant 130,451; unsloth GGUF derivative 431,339 (repo created 8/26). slotstream (Show HN 9/1, 147 pts) runs the 104GB 4-bit weights on a 48GB M5 Pro at ~12 tok/s warm decode (32GB peak, SSD streaming, single Swift binary, Ollama/OpenAI-compatible APIs) — independent community serving tooling, though still not a benchmark reproduction. Architecture now documented in the Qwen3.8-Next design paper (arXiv 2608.30320, ev-20260901-03): 125B/6B active + 51B n-gram embeddings, ~1/9 training FLOPs vs the 397B-A17B predecessor at comparable quality. Stays WATCH
2026-09-05 Adoption check @2026-09-05: 351,374 downloads (+69% vs 9/2) + FP8 repo 186,676 (+43%) + 4,871 likes; unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF at 702,251 — now exceeds Qwen's own main repo; nvidia/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NVFP4 created 9/2 (NVIDIA publishing an NVFP4 derivative); mudler APEX GGUF derivative 9/4. Quantization recipe research catching up: Minima NVFP4 W4A4 across a Qwen3.8-27B hybrid incl. GDN layers (ev-20260905-03). Stays WATCH
2026-09-14 2026-09-14 report run: SGLang main merged a reproducible single-DGX-Spark path for NVIDIA's NVFP4 derivative (#39126). The narrow 200-question GSM8K check reported 97.5%/97.0% with/without MTP and 92.87/89.53 tok/s, but this is TP=1, main-branch-only and not a controlled comparison. Recommendation stays WATCH.
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